In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole reconnects with longtime friend and cybersecurity legend Dr. Anton Chuvakin, whom he has known for over 25 years. The conversation opens with reflections on their decades-long professional journey and transitions into a deep dive into Anton’s current work at Google Cloud’s Office of the CISO. Anton shares how his team supports secure cloud and AI adoption—not as traditional field CISOs focused on sales—but as strategic advisors and researchers helping clients understand and implement Google’s advanced security models.
The discussion spotlights Google’s internal use of Zero Trust architecture, highlighting how Google eliminated the need for VPNs over a decade ago. Anton explains how this approach—initially pioneered through Google’s BeyondCorp—combines stronger security with greater usability, a rare balance in cybersecurity. Dr. Cole presses into why more companies haven’t adopted Zero Trust, prompting Anton to emphasize the power of organizational inertia. Drawing from his years at Gartner, Anton notes that despite the proven benefits, many enterprises resist change due to legacy systems and mindset barriers. This episode offers a compelling look at the evolving landscape of enterprise security and the importance of embracing innovation over outdated habits.
In this episode:
- 1:00 – Introduction of Today’s Focus
- 5:00 – Replacing VPN with Zero Trust
- 9:00 – Change in Security Tools is Illusory
- 12:00 – Security’s Role in Driving Change
- 15:00 – RSA Overloaded with “AI” Claims
- 19:00 – Real-World AI is Imperfect
- 20:00 – Transitioning to CISO Roles
- 23:00 – Tech and Business Are Both Pillars
- 25:00 – Final View – Tech is Foundational
